Posted by Frank Schaeffer on Wednesday, February 21, 2018
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Isn’t it sad that for all of Billy Graham’s behind the scenes opposition to politics regrets later in life .. he made none of it public … preferring instead to follow in lock step on the tails of the GOP … appearing constantly at political rallies … as well as appearing behind every POTUS for as long as he was able .. never so much as once … publicly refuting his multitude of errors … both ethical and theological … right up until what is now the end
So on the death of Billy Graham … I reserve the right to remain conflicted .
As for Franklin ? May he be consumed by his own hypocrisies , heresies and lies … and may he never find a moments peace in this or any other life .
How Christian of you.
Actually Clarissa .. if you’d take the time to READ the Bible … specifically David’s Psalms as well as Christ , Paul and the Apostles condemnations of hypocrites and heretics … you’d realize in reality I’m being extremely Christian and in fact quite reserved and kind in my condemnations of Franklin Graham in comparison to what is at my disposal .
Reading … a long lost skill set among the social media addled generation
I have sent this video of Frank Shaeffer over Billy Graham’s death to everyone that I know as this is a must watch!
Very eye opening!
Nine
Nine … send them the link to todays NPR story on Billy Graham’s death as well !
Very very ear opening !
Suffice it to say NPR’s story holds nothing back in placing the blame for the current state of the Cult currently posing as the American Evangelical church as well as tearing into Franklin Graham … fangs and claws barred … exposing him in more detail than even Frank has for the little pile of heretical hypocritical excrement that Franklin is .. complete with a few choice recordings of some of Franklin’s more recent heinous quotes
Here’s the link to the NPR story Nine ;
https://www.npr.org/2018/02/21/136224476/americas-pastor-billy-graham-dies-at-99
And ahhh …. sigh … the GOP dominated FLA house has refused to consider amending Floridas gun laws or placing limitations on the kind of guns that can be sold …
… claiming …. [ Delusional Hypocrisy Alert ] … now get this … Pornography is a greater health risk than the mass consumption of military assault weapons .
I always had a soft spot for Billy Graham even after I rejected Christian mythology. Frank is right about Graham representing a softer, more gentle form of Christian belief. Unfortunately, given what we have seen of his son Franklin Graham, Frank is probably right. FG will exploit his father’s death for gain. Shame.
Suffice it to say as one who lived thru the majority of Billy Graham’s presence as well as influence on the Evangelical church personally …
Billy Graham’s life and ministry … was at best … conflicted … for even bit of good he made claim to … there’s another equal if not greater consequence that followed … for every statistic his ministry made …. a host of exaggeration and lies .. for every dollar he took in … piles of it found its way to supporting US military actions in Central and South America .. for every Biblical passage he preached … a plethora of hypocritical actions that followed …. etc … et al … ad nauseam
The saddest reality as I stated earlier is that Billy never made amends .. never publicly recanted his actions … and right up to the end remained in the back pockets of the GOP
In as far as Franklin is concerned … he’s cashing in on Billy’s death as we comment
And suffice it to say when it comes to the slime Franklin is … the apple never falls very far from the tree …
… meant to add that Billy Graham’s life and ministry was both a ‘ quandary’ as well as conflicted
PS ; re; Your constantly claiming Christianity to be a myth .
Calling Christianity a myth is the path of fools and rebellious little children with daddy issues . You may chose not to believe Christianity to be true .. which is your right … a right I’d fight to the death to uphold …
.. but you may not intellectually , historically , philosophically etc make the erroneous claim that the whole of Christianity being a myth .
And again young lady … if you wish my respect in this mutual battle we’re confronting … then you’d damn well better grow up and learn to offer a little respect my way as well .
As stated many times previously … respect is either mutual … or it does not exist at all . And suffice it to say in your current state of being you do not want to make enemies of those such as myself by constantly disrespecting our beliefs .
Capice ? 😎
Dear Frank Schaeffer:
With Billy Graham an age passes.
Franklin isn’t a fifth the man his father was.
A blessed Lenten walk with Christ!
Sigh …. honestly gdd ? That has to rank among the most insincere comments or replies you’ve ever posted … even exceeding the Platitudes & Attitudes insincerity of your constantly hypocritical and meaningless ecclesiastical blessings
Not to mention being a complete and utter fabrication of your own making . Simple fact is … no age has passed .. Franklin Graham is nothing more than an amplified and mildly exaggerated version of Billy Graham … precisely because as with Franklin .. Billy Graham was more often than not by his actions a hypocrite to his words … equally obsessed by wealth & power .. and just as in the back pockets of the GOP if not more than Franklin is .
In fact … if anything … I’d give Franklin more credit than I ever would Billy . Why … because at least with Franklin all you have to do is listen to him and read his words to know exactly what it is you’re getting . Whereas with Billy … what he said today seldom if ever had any bearing on what he’d do or say tomorrow . e.g. Franklin may be evil personified .. but at least he’s logically consistent evil .
So lets not mince words just because the man is dead . Dead … don’t make him right . Fact is you don’t have a clue who Billy was … the lies he told in the service of his beloved GOP … the damage and destruction he incurred … the foundations of christofascism he laid in place * … the overt attachment to the GOP he helped create .. nor how much additional damage and destruction has been done in his name over the decades .
* Suffice it to say for all of Frank’s self imposed guilt and attempts to make amends for his and Francis’s responsibility in the creation of contemporary christofascism … Billy Graham’s influence was at least a thousand times more than that of both Frank and Francis’s … in combination with Swaggart … combined .
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