Alabama makes us uncomfortable, because it’s an accurate mirror of what lurks nationwide.
Let’s thank Trump, Roy Moore and the GOP: They have proven forever that white American evangelicals are not a religious group at all but a cult dedicated to demagoguery, scapegoating, and the demonizing of fellow citizens, zealotry, suspicion and tribalism. And with delusions about religion in America exploded also goes delusions about our nation’s exceptional “calling.”
Steve Bannon, alcoholic racist Nazi domestic abuser supports Roy Moore, racist bigot xenophobic alleged pedophile. And Trump supports them both- enabled by white American Evangelicals: the “base” of America’s embrace of expedient evil.
American Exceptionalism? Not so much.
Thank Trump for proving that far from being exceptionally good, let alone “God-chosen” we are exceptionally stupid.
In 2016 Trump won and cut out America’s entertained-to-death “brain.” With the 2017 Trump/GOP tax bill smashing the middle class and poor to enrich the rich, Trump cut out America’s heart.
Our delusion of goodness is gone.
Go figure: At a time of planetary stress on God’s Creation it’s Trump’s evangelicals who lead Trump’s fervent promotion of a fossil-fuel America, coal mining, pipelines, and fracking and the rejection of the very idea of climate change let alone stewardship.
How can I describe the Trumped evangelical movement my family were leaders in? This way: Christians are in the grip of self-delusion of the kind that compromises the conscience and allows for an unstoppable descent deeper and deeper into the abyss of lost faith in goodness, virtue, beauty and kindness, yes and lost faith in Jesus.
Elections used to be about politics and policy. With Trump in the White House we are now in a war for the soul of America. In 2018 our job isn’t to “win” an election but to – quite literally – decide if we even want a country at all.
One other thing: It really is time to “Put Christ back in Christmas.” Whomever you think Jesus was – Son of God, prophet or deluded crazy person – he did not teach pedophilia, woman abuse, and theft from the poor to give to the rich.
We need a Reformation of religion, a revival of beauty, truth and goodness- and a Christianity that follows Jesus not Ayn Rand.
Do you want me to keep blogging, posting videos, traveling and speaking? Then please help out.
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Frank refers to “God’s creation”, when he is an evolutionist who believes God had nothing to do with the existence of the earth.
Every time Frank refers to Jesus, he makes himself a hypocrite since he does not believe anything Jesus said, and may not even believe Jesus ever existed.
Once again, Frank attacks Christians because he hates them. He hates the God of the Bible, and hates the Bible itself.
Frank views “rich people” as nothing more than a source of money for the government and those who Frank wants the money to go to.
Frank hates “white people” because he views white people as the major problem with the USA. I would not be surprised if Frank hates himself because he is white.
Gary Bryson is obviously incapable of reading what is written .. preferring instead in his quest for ultimate trolldom to read into what is written .. placing his own hypocritical , delusions biases and prejudices above and beyond anything written on the page … digital or paper .
Which comes as no surprise seeing as how he does the same with the Bible he’s never READ yet still claims to uphold
It isn’t hard to know what Frank means because he says it. His hatred for God, for Christians, for white people is very evident in his comments. Rarely does he make a post or a video without hitting on those themes.
As proven with your each and every comment reply and post . You know absolutely nothing … about anything …
.. not to mention you’re being a liar .. a hypocrite .. and a sycophant fool throughly incapable of independent though .. but ultimately .. a troll .
It seems you aren’t listening to what Frank is actually saying.
” It seems you aren’t listening to what Frank is actually saying ”
It seems once again unable to face up to your own faults and culpabilities … along with your pre-pubescent attempts at replying when you’ve been exposed .. you’re trying to deflect your own ills and sins upon others .
No! Gory… Franks does not hate whites. And while I can’t answer for him, my extensive knowledge on behavioral profiling tells me that what he despises is the Christofascist Bible Thumping Neo-Nazi-Alt-White-Privilege attitude of despotic Evangelicals/Baptists such as yourself … with your ignorant gun worshipping bigoted hatred towards the poor, the underprivileged, the Blacks and all people of color, the foreigners, the Muslims, and of course the homosexuals, to go along with your calls for violence, and civil war! As endlessly evidenced in your (and your pose of sockpuppets) relentless holier-than-thou ranting posts, of baseless misinformation, threats, and accusations!
Margarite, I have never said anything about you that isn’t true. I have never said anything about Frank Schaeffer that isn’t true. You should wish I had lied about you. It would have made you look better than the truth does.
But YOU lie about me all the time. I am not what you claim I am. And you should stop lying about me.
Margarita – re: the linguistic analysis/identification I’ve alluded to in regards to Gary & the Lemmings performed by a former high ranking NSA office friend of ours . Paraphrased and edited in order to keep things succinct
” This moniker claiming to be Gary Bryson displays all the traits and characteristics of a 10 – 15 year old individual of indeterminate gender . Also there are at least two distinct personalities posting under the Gary Bryson moniker . With the Courtney / Dianna Marie / Simone moniker comments and replies all coming from the same source as the Gary Bryson character displaying all the similar linguistic , syntax and grammar traits of the Gary Bryson moniker ”
Suffice it to say the complete analysis is pages long but that is the gist of things . Conclusion … a troll with a cadre of sock puppets
Indeed TJ there are two distinct linguistic analysis/identification personalities hailing from the same vicinity of High Point NC. One being that of Gary Bryson, and the other being that of his obese female servant who mindlessly does his bidding.
I wonder if Margaritaville realizes how bigoted her own remarks seem?
Probably not.
And it seems to me that both Martin and Bryson have talked about Civil War, tracking IP numbers, and the like.
The police may well be watching this blog.
Thank you for that en point commentary. I would add one thing more- their crass pursuit of political power, no matter the compromises that have to be made to truth, justice and ethics, will be their eventual undoing..
I couldn’t agree with you more Dolores. Just wait till those tax cuts for the rich hits them full force and they don’t have anyone else to blame but themselves. They will implode and wind up tearing each other up. Such is the fate of those who wear the Drumph Stamp on their arses!
Thank you Margarita Abadie for your ever so intelligent words. Your use of few, but very powerful words says it all! Those of us that believe the same as you and Frank Schaeffer need to ban together and get our country back on track to goodness again. What would Jesus do?
” Margarita . I have never said anything about you that isn’t true. I have never said anything about Frank Schaeffer that isn’t true. You should wish I had lied about you. It would have made you look better than the truth does ”
Wrong Gary Lemming … everything you say .. every accusation you make .. every condemnation you proclaim about everybody is an outright lie including every bit of Make America White Again propaganda to try and spread about Trump , Roy Moore etc
Fact is Gary Lemming .. you are a pathological liar incapable of uttering anything but lies .
Martin, Kiss my ass, and then go to Hell.
Gory… After repeatedly saying that homosexuality and oral sex were immoral, why are you now asking TJ to kiss your ass, when by your own words that would send you to hell too? Seems to me that now we must add masochism to your list of personality traits.
Margarite, It did occur to me that he might get romantic about it. I probably should not have said it, for that reason.
” Martin, Kiss my ass, and then go to Hell ”
Ahhh … the truth hurts … doesn’t it little one .
” But YOU lie about me all the time. I am not what you claim I am. And you should stop lying about me ”
Oh poor little Gary & the Lemmings … now pretending to be the victim in the conflict it created
Suffice it to say little one no one has uttered so much as a solitary falsehood .. never mind a lie about you .
The problem is Gary & the Lemmings is .. you being the pathological liar that you are .. you can’t handle the truth .. about you .. or any of the small metal gods you bow down before .
” Margarite, It did occur to me that he might get romantic about it. I probably should not have said it, for that reason ”
Golly … thats really clever … for a 10-15 year old hiding in the closet trying to conceal its gender identification issues
One last Biblical slap upside your virtual white washed dung little head for good measure Bryson .
So God is gonna rebuild the temple … ehh ? And just WTF does the Bible .. KJB or otherwise say that dumb**s ? Seems to me from the KJB to the NIV right on up to the newest NGSB what the Bible says when quoting Christ is … and I quote verbatim ;
” …. destroy this temple and I will raise it up in three days ( referring to Himself and His Resurrection ) … ”
Because my blasphemous little brain dead heretic … Christ was and is the final and perfect temple and sacrifice … bringing the Old Covenant to an end .. bringing in the New Covenant by His Sacrifice on the Cross … and once Judgement Day rolls around … and all those in the Book are residing in Heaven … we’ll all be directly in God’s presence … thereby negating the need for a temple of any kind .
Gee … amazing aint it what you can learn when you take the time to READ the Bible rather than reading or listening to what someone else is saying about it ? Especially some white trash substance addled heretic biffing little girls in the choir loft pretending to be a pastor .. never mind a Christian … Damn ..
So much for your beliefs ..
Or, he could be just telling the truth concerning what we know and see happening. And as he and many others see it.
Please get a grip, your hatred is blinding you to the truth. The Christian Right is filled with hatred of everything Jesus preached. Where is it written that we must promote and support Pedophilia and yet the Right wing supported by Christian Fundamentalists are doing just that…have been for 30+ years now..
Wow . Perhaps your best since I discovered your site Frank . Balanced … both information and emotions wise … a very appropriate amount of sarcasm … though the CliffNotes version .. factual .. damn Frank … this is you at your best . Please carry on
And if I may … an addendum or two ;
Christmas – What Christmas most definitely is not about … is wretched excess conspicuous consumption . As well as it should not be about the blatant deification of pagan deities ( Santa Clause who unlike the myth was not derived by a mythical St Nicholas but rather from the Norse deity Tomtar and his Germanic equivalent ) or pagan symbolism ( Christmas trees .. wreaths … the lights / candles etc ) Fact is Christmas isn’t even Christ’s birthday … but thats another issue
The Church – Much as I’d like to point the finger solely at the American Evangelical / Fundamentalist ( never ) Right . What we’re seeing today is endemic to church history since 300 AD when Constantine appropriated Christianity taking it from Faith … to Religion and then turning it into a Political entity who’s sole purpose was the acquisition of power and lands with the Faith compromising and sacrificing the Truth in the quest for power of its own .
And that is the church today . Power is god .. Truth be damned … full speed ahead .. and all hail the new goddess Ayn Rand
@ Frank , Ms Abate , Nine 3:10 etc
Lately .. as I’ve discussed here with Ms Abadie etc … I’ve been asking myself the question ;
In light of the fact that I and my household stand to benefit greatly from all Herr Drumpf’s ” Make the Rich Richer ” policies ( his all but removing the capitol gains tax alone will increase our wealth by a healthy six figures in 2018 ) … why am I fighting so hard for a bunch of blind sycophants verging on quislings that support Trump’s every word as if it were gospel that stand to lose everything under Trump and the GOP’s current policies ?
Especially when unlike the majority of them … we have two guaranteed failsafe outs if need be ( CDN and CH )
When discussing this with my wife .. she reminded me of the last section of my letter of resignation from both the church .. denomination … and seminaries I was attached to six years ago ;
” With Christ by my side , the education , talents and skills He has given me as well as the warrior He created me to be I am confident in my abilities to defend the Sheep from the attacks and onslaught of the Wolf . But what I and no man/woman can do is to defend the Sheep from the Wolf when in fact the Sheep chose to go blindly running to the Wolf ”
And that … like it or not … is the current state of both the US in general .. and especially the church in America . Sheep running blindly towards the Wolf to their own slaughter like so many lemmings running over the cliff
Begging the question I and mine are struggling with . What real motivation do I have to continue on ? For that matter what real motivation do any of us … Frank included .. have ?
Frank should write an essay, and do a video about the kind of America he would like. How would Frank change America, if he could?
Gary Bryson should grow up … get a brain … and grow a pair .
FYI ; Bryson … Just because you say something verbatim , endlessly and repeatedly a thousand times or more does not make it true …..
….because you see .. this is the real world . Not the fantasy world of magic spells , conjuring and sorcery you live in .
I am an adult, with a brain, and a pair.
A pair of what Gory? Empty sacks? Sockpuppets?? Guns??? Please clarify!
Don’t you know what “a pair of” means? Does your black dude not have some?
” Don’t you know what “a pair of” means? Does your black dude not have some?”
For someone claiming to be an adult you seem to be utterly incapable of comprehending even so much as a moderate level of adult sarcasm as posted by Ms Abadie . So does that make you A) a child … or B) just plain stupid ?
Answer ; A & B
As for the last remark .. Gary & the Lemmings .. you’ve just proven yourself to be the blatant racist everyone accuses you of .
Thanks for playing !
Martin, Everyone is a racist and a bigot. You too!
Well… Why Yes! Gory… My Black partner sure has a number of very large paired endowments, among them, his beautifully big and ample hands … his athletic, muscular, and incredibly strong arms, legs, and shoulders that complement his chiseled six-pack, and a pair of very large size 13 boots which he will have absolutely no constraint whatsoever shoving down your throat, should you as much as attempt to hurt me, as you have threatened to do so in writing and on a public forum, no less.
” Martin, Everyone is a racist and a bigot. You too! ”
Delusional wishful thinking in the futile attempt to excuse your own vile white trash racist behavior in direct violation of the very Bible you claim to believe in .
” Frank should write an essay, and do a video about the kind of America he would like. How would Frank change America, if he could?”
Once again proving you’ve never read a single book Frank has ever written .. watched one of his videos to see what is is saying ( rather than what you think he is saying in the pursuit of spreading your Make America White Again white trash propaganda ) nor paid attention to anything he has posted on his blog .
Cause if you had breit(bart boy … you’d already know the answers to your insincere and endlessly repetitive questions
Yeah, I think we already know what kind of America Frank wants. But its not the one white Christians want.
” Yeah, I think we already know what kind of America Frank wants. But its not the one white Christians want ”
What you mean Gary & the Lemmings is what Frank wants for America is not what the hypocritical , heretical inbred , grotesquely obese , substance addled , brain dead white trash sycophants pretending to be christians such as yourself want
Thank God, Mr Bryson!
Ah yes! Gory only concerns himself about what “White Christians” want. Because in his infinitesimal mind what Black Christians, and/or Christians of any other race want… doesn’t matter. And he still claims not to be a racist. Bwahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaa!!!
Margarita, Being a racist is something you and I have in common.
Really? Go ahead and prove that I am a racist.
” Margarita, Being a racist is something you and I have in common ”
Talk about lies and false accusations Gary & the Lemmings ..
Now about that missing pair of yours ………
” I am an adult, with a brain, and a pair ”
Try .. none of the above . Especially the later
Thank God, Mr Bryson!
Oops. Wrong place. How did that happen?
No worries … it happens to all of us …. 😎
Meanwhile Gory… Drumph has just announced (just in time for Christmas) that the US now recognizes Jerusalem as the official capital of Israel, and will subsequently be moving the American embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem.
HOORAY!!!! I’ve been hoping he would do that! Another reason I preferred Trump over Hellary.
Of course, you are happy! But the rest of us know that the timing of this is only about distracting you ignoramuses from questioning his tax bill.
Margarita, Nonsense. Trump is not trying to distract from the tax bill. He campaigned on the tax bill.
” Nonsense. Trump is not trying to distract from the tax bill. He campaigned on the tax bill ”
Bulls**t ! Trump is trying to distract all the negative attention aimed at him as the Russian investigation goes very wrong ( exacerbated by the recent revelations pertaining to Russia by the IOC who just evicted them from the Winter Games ) ..
.. along with the fact that the majority of Economists , Americans , US businesses and Government agencies alike are all proclaiming the Tax Reform to be a ” Make the Rich Richer ” scam .. costing the lower and middle classes a fortune in the process
OK then … you verified it .. its not an act … you really are that stupid …
… and … to help initiate the war he is so desperately in need of in order to draw attention away from the Russia investigation etc – et al – ad nauseam .. by creating his very own version of the Nazi’s Reichstag Fire
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichstag_fire
Old play…
I think they called that 911…
Nine
But of course TJ. Didn’t Mueller just yesterday announce that he was going to subpoena Deutsche Bank records related to Drump regarding documents and data related to people or entities affiliated with the President? And now that we can reasonably expect to involve our military in mass in the Middle East, what do you want to bet that Kim Jong Un will be launching yet another missile within the next week, in the full knowledge that we can’t spread out that thin?
Why yes he did . In direct violation to all Trump’s threats and edicts I might add . And you know what ? With all the past due / over due and verging on bankruptcy loans Drumpf has with DB … not to mention Drumpf having made an enemy of Merkel and the entire EU .. they’ve already stated plainly their willingness to cooperate fully and completely .. as will several CH banks etc ..
To borrow the words of Ricky Ricardo
” You gotta lotta ‘splanin to do … Donald ( Jr & Sr )
… and actually .. we’re already spread far too thin on the ground what with Iraq Afghanistan Syria and several covert wars on the African continent etc to the point of all our viable resources currently being actively engaged … and .. due to the complexity of modern era war machines … no capability to replace or replenish in a reasonable amount of time . Then … theres the issue of extremely understaffed boots on the ground and officers .
All the factors chickenhawks likes the Troll known as Bryson is pretending to be know nothing about … as long as their god and supreme leader Drumpf continues to assure them all is well … despite the military themselves saying otherwise
” HOORAY!!!! I’ve been hoping he would do that! Another reason I preferred Trump over Hellary ”
Gotta admit Gary & the Lemmings .. your blatant outright inbred substance addled stupidity .. seems to have no limits
Too bad you’re such a pos chickenhawk minus a pair .. otherwise you could volunteer to be the first in line to deal with the ensuing violence your bloviating 350 lb orangutan just incited
Martin, We have a military for that, if it happens. Israel has a military as well. Are you going to become violent over this?
” We have a military for that, if it happens. Israel has a military as well ”
Neither Israels or our military is in a position to deal with a major outbreak of violence and terrorism in the Middle East … as proven over the last five decades by Israels inability to deal with terrorism … and our military’s utter incompetence in dealing with a bunch of rag tag upstarts .And remember stupid … Pakistan has the bomb . Not to mention .. no one else will come to either our or Israels aid … in fact China and Russia would come against us ..
” Are you going to become violent over this?”
Assuming you finally grow a pair and are willing to come out from behind your little girl sock puppet alter egos and screen and show yourself .. gladly … chickenhawk .
Oh ,,, and by the way dumb**s , in case this fact has escaped your attention … the US military .. all branches … is way down in numbers … meaning should a major conflict arise … the draft after some 43 years will be reinstated .
And with any luck … you’ll be of age the minute it does and the first to go on the front lines
Good God in Heaven Gary & the Lemmings .. are you really that stupid or is this all just an act to get a rise out of people ?
Really? You mean if only you could locate me, you would show up and attack me? Did I understand you correctly? And here we are, in the Christmas season, and you a self-proclaimed loving, kind, peaceful, tolerant, Christ-like “Christian” wants to beat someone up??? Can’t you find a Christian where you live? There are probably some people who live in your area that believe very much like I do that you could attack. Probably some women, which would make it a bit easier for you.
” Really? You mean if only you could locate me, you would show up and attack me? Did I understand you correctly? And here we are, in the Christmas season, and you a self-proclaimed loving, kind, peaceful, tolerant, Christ-like “Christian” wants to beat someone up??? Can’t you find a Christian where you live? There are probably some people who live in your area that believe very much like I do that you could attack. Probably some women, which would make it a bit easier for you ”
Golly Gary & the Lemmings .. so once again the gutless little chickenhawk hides behind the screen and the dresses of his little girl sock puppets in order to avoid the confrontation he /she/it started .
Such a brave little teapot .
And no little one … there are no inbred heretical pretend christian wanna be’s in my area nearly as vile and disgusting as you .
” Margarite, If your black boyfriend ever knocks you up, or someone else does, I would strongly recommend you abort the child asap. Your reproducing would be a great disservice to the world ”
Keep it up Bryson … the clock is ticking … the thread is getting weaker ..
Interesting how Gory delegates the fighting to the military, while he cowardly remains safe in his own home, where he can continue to spew hatred via his computer and Internet connection. Now we know why these Evangelicals are so against abortion. The real reason being, that they need a new generation of cannon fodder to sacrifice for the profits of Corporate America.
Amen to that Ms Abadie .. hence my constantly referring to it/she/him as a ‘ chickenhawk ”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chickenhawk_(politics)
Margarite, If your black boyfriend ever knocks you up, or someone else does, I would strongly recommend you abort the child asap. Your reproducing would be a great disservice to the world.
Oh MY!!! Poor old Gory is exceedingly jealous of my partner’s generous endowments and is now contradicting what he had previously said about the bible being against abortion. Keep at it you punny little old fart, as all you are doing is showing everybody what an insecure racist hypocrite you really are for all to see, to go along with your deep-seated issues with your own sexual identity to go along with your pathetic genophobia stemming from your inferiority complex as far as your own physical endowments are concerned! Little wonder you are such a hateful racist, and keep condemning all those who enjoy sex, and/or are more generously endowed than you are…
The US and Israeli militaries have a lot of capability. If they are allowed to use it. The reason we have wars that last for years is that those in charge of the military won’t let the military win the war.
” The US and Israeli militaries have a lot of capability. If they are allowed to use it. The reason we have wars that last for years is that those in charge of the military won’t let the military win the war ”
Wanna bet ?
suffice it to say though .. Yup … yer as stupid deluded and uninformed as you appear .
But hey chickenhawk … what ever it takes to get you thru your meaningless and inane little day
… with … the entire US State Dept & Military , UN , Middle East , EU , UK and Asia condemning Drumpf for his outright stupidity and arrogance stating point blank that any conflicts or rise in terrorism worldwide from this point on now falls directly upon his bloated orange spray painted shoulders
So here’s one you might know the answer to Ms Abadie ;
1) How is it that Trump can be both pro-Zionist yet blatantly anti semitic despite having a so called Jew for a son inlaw
Or better yet .
2) How is it that the Evangelical and Fundamentalist churches in America can be both anti semitic yet pro Zionist ?
Answers ;
1) Same reason why Trump in his attempted travel bans targeted some nations with little or no known terrorist activities in the US while exempting several that do
He has business interests and investments in Israel and his son in law on the best of days is about as much a Jew as Bryson & the Lemmings are christians
2) Because beginning in the early 90’s the Evangelical and Fundamentalist churches succumbed to a Zionist heresy that claims that by removing all the Muslims and the Jews from Israel and rebuilding the Temple will hasten Christ’s return ….
Martin,
God alone is in control of when the Jewish Temple will be rebuilt and when Christ returns. God operates on HIS timetable, not that of anyone else.
” God alone is in control of when the Jewish Temple will be rebuilt and when Christ returns. God operates on HIS timetable, not that of anyone else ”
To bad once again you don’t know your head from your sphincter Gary & the Lemmings … because …
That aint what yer substance addled white trash heretic Evangelicals and Fundamentalists including the majority of IFB churches believe . Like flies on molasses ( or Roy Moore on little girls ) … they’re all over that particular heresy … and have been since the early 1990’s
Martin,
I’m saying what I believe the Bible says.
BTW Gary & the Lemmings .. your kind does not believe in God . What you believe in is a series of small metal gods created in your own white trash image .
TJ,
In the end when he does return their “God’s” will die with them….
best to ignor…
Nine
” I’m saying what I believe the Bible says ”
1) You don’t believe in anything the Bible says
but more importantly
2) It doesn’t matter what the Bible does or does not say in this thread . The only thing that matters is what the EV’s and Fundy’s believe .. and how far they’re willing to go and how much Drumpf is willing to go along with them ( in order to draw the attention away from himself ) to make their beliefs come true
Again ..Bryson …are you really as stupid as you make yourself out to be .. or is this just an act you put on while hiding behind a screen
It makes a great deal of difference to me what the Bible says since I rely on the Bible for guidance. It might not matter to you, or to others, but it does to me.
” It makes a great deal of difference to me what the Bible says since I rely on the Bible for guidance. It might not matter to you, or to others, but it does to me ”
What you believe or do not believe is irrelevant to the conversation / thread at hand . Suffice it to say … you aint god … you have no control … therefore on this particular subject your opinions and beliefs do not matter . whether your beliefs are true or not .
But to reiterate … you believe in nor trust in anything that the Bible says .. oh you can play the game to a very limited extent with the use of social media etc … but you know and believe in … nothing ..
Martin, I have yet to see you say anything that is true. It would seem you would accidently be right once in a while, but you never are. LOL!
” I have yet to see you say anything that is true. It would seem you would accidently be right once in a while, but you never are. LOL! ”
Thats because you wouldn’t know the truth if it hit you upside your little white trash substance addled little troll head … which it will …
FYI ; Bryson … enough with the little girl LOL act already . We know you’ve got gender issues and in the midsts of a sexual identity crisis . Suffice it to say though … the only ones laughing …are everyone but you .
I was about to postulate the exact same questions TJ and propose the same exact answers. But it would seem that you beat me to it. If anything this just goes to prove how entrenched in double standards Drumph and his base of Evangelicals really are. The fallacious travesty of it all being that while they “may” remove the Muslims, they will never remove the jews from Israel. Good luck with hastening the return of Christ!!!
Consider it ” Turnabout is fair play ” .. fer preempting my Christmas revelations ( adult humor and sarcasm most definitely intended . )
Margarita … after the recent run in with Nine ( yes Nine ) my question/concern I expressed in my 2:50pm comment has firmly been answered … unfortunately .
Ciao
” Old play…I think they called that 911… Nine ”
Jeeze Nine … don’t you go crawling feet first down Alice’s Rabbit Hole of blatant and unfounded delusional conspiracy theories .
Only deluded folks believe our dear governments propaganda as I worked for them and I know of what I speak.
As to ISIS and the middle east ISIS is us. Both funded and trained by our JSOP and armed by our private military contractors and as always the correct question is who benefits?
Moving that embassy to” El-Qud”s? Absolute disaster for America!
I have a military pal with what is known as a cosmic security clearance and I shall give you his web address and you can go debate him if you dare.
In the early days of the ‘net my pal would look up info about trolls and post said on the ‘net about folks financial history or even if they watched porn and usually when this was done the troll disappeared for good he he….
Imagine what we could find with an NSA feed on our dear Mr. Bryson?
This world we live in is not at all what it seems as our media is controlled by four giant corporations and now Google controls what truth is upon the internet and the ” Donald” is just a symptom of what is indeed a much deeper problem.
And Google ideas group has a 20000 man army staffed by US military and Blackwater rejects as only the dirtiest of Merks work for these people. You are bad when you get kicked out of the US military and worse when Blackwater fires you!
To much truth?
I am in my 60’s as I do not care about reputation and I had a successful career.
thanx
Nine
Nine
Nine,
Why is moving the embassy to Jerusalem a disaster?
What is the “much deeper problem” you refer to? And is there a way to fix it?
Because dumb*ass .. in one fell swoop your bloviating con man just derailed any possibility of Peace in the Middle East driving a wedge between us and all our Middle East allies … not to mention distancing us from the entire EU/UK .. as well as opening the door for China and Russia to come stomping in the door setting off what may end up as WWIII .. a war the likes of which .. even if you do survive .. you’ll be on your knees praying to your small metal gods that you hadn’t
Thats why ..
Ahhh .. but why do I bother .. you’re just a stupid little idiot troll trying to pretend you’re an adult and a christian .
I asked Nine, not you. So don’t bother.
Nine – I’m in my 60’s as well . Within my immediate family and friends … NSA .. DHS … FBI … and a few extremely covert agencies you probably know nothing about ( no insult intended ) ..so trust me when I say …. there is no such thing as too much truth in my book
1) 9/11 was an eff up of epic proportions …. right down to GWB’s multiple responses afterwards … but there was no Reichstad conspiracy behind it
2) As for the Google group military … that is blatantly false .
3) As for the media .. yes and no ( definitely with the likes of FoxNews .. not so much when it comes to MSNBC NYTimes and the WP )
The ISIS claim … utter conspiracy theory and in the TV ( Frasier ) character Bulldog’s words …” BS … this is total BS ”
And suffice it to say Trump is the very product of beliefs in conspiracy theories such as these .. along with the Collective Stupidity of America falling for a known con – man with a 50 year history to prove it .
As far as debating with your friend … there is no room for debate … only facts .
But ahhh …thanks for inadvertently and unintentionally helping me to answer my question/concern I expressed in my 12/6/17 2:50pm comment today .
Suffice it to say … if this is the level of revisionist facts – conspiracy theories and alternative realities I’m dealing with … even from the likes of you … then I truly am wasting my time trying to stand up for the truth and the Truth … … online … or at the very least on this website
Ciao
Martin, You’re in your sixties? And you think you can win a fight with someone younger than you?
Oh… Look! Now Gory is lying about his age and trying to pass himself as way younger than what he really is… Don’t be fooled! He is in his mid to late 70’s, and nowhere near as virile as he’d want you to believe…
Martin, You keep saying I am 15. Make up your mind. How old am I?
What is truth?
911 is about traitors in the USG including DHS …the worst of the bunch….then add the FBI…
No mention of the big elephant in the room that 51st state? hmm….
My dear brother travels a lot and his Joke about the TSA? Thousands standing around..he..he.
Government is about security clearance and compartmentalization as in many still believe the JFK fable.
Speaking of 911 I have moved on as our dear government will never ever come clean as to what really happened and DHS?
Total joke of an agency. I could have went over to them on a federal transfer when they first started and I had no respect at all for the folks I saw at the local level in my community.
Stayed with America’s legacy agency……
Just an opinion….
Nine
” Within my immediate family and friends … NSA .. DHS … FBI … and a few extremely covert agencies you probably know nothing about ( no insult intended ) ..so trust me when I say …. there is no such thing as too much truth in my book ”
Mr. Bryson,
Here lies the problem. Secrecy gone wild from the agencies that Dr. Martin mentioned above as it is impossible to govern without an informed citizenry as in our republic is dead a long time ago and Trump just shredded the rest of the bill of rights.
NDAA
patriot act
please look theses up and you shall see what I mean.
N
I would have to agree with you Nine. And while I’m by no means a tin foil hatter, neither am I blind not to see the big elephant in the room when it’s sitting right in front of me. As such, I don’t buy either “official” version.
I both case, the truth lies somewhere in the middle, and to get to it, the logical answer will always be who could have benefited from these actions, and of course, follow the money.
Personally, I feel that our government was involved in both cases, just not exactly as we were lead to believe. The most like scenario being that they had previous knowledge of the dangers posed by Oswald (which is supported by evidence from both the CIA and the FBI) and the terrorist who brought down the Twin Towers; but because of financial gain, chose to do nothing about it. As in, had they wanted to stop it, they could have.
Google ideas group,
Here is a fine article by Gordon Duff of Veterans Today a publication run by retired intel and military and government types.
https://www.veteranstoday.com/2017/10/23/neo-oxford-propaganda-front-attacks-veterans-today-the-neocon-witch-hunt-begins/
It matters not to me Dr. Martin what you think of this as it is something to consider as the world of our corporate media is far from the truth.
VT hates trump with a passion as who in the alt-media hates trump?
Please read the above article and the site itself has a fine comment section as we can send Bryson over there to troll..he he…
Much on this site is disinfo per the idea of a bunch of retired spys posting on the web…
Nine
The logical conclusion seems to be that every government on the planet is corrupt. If one assumed that anyone working for the US Gov., elected, appointed, hired, whether openly or secretly, is corrupt, one would be right more often than wrong.
Most Americans have no idea of the depth and severity of the problem. If they did, about the only thing they could do would be to vote out whoever is in office and hope the newly elected would fix things. But that is naïve. What happens when the whole game is rigged? Probably won’t be long until we find out.
By the way, World Trade Center Building 7 was rigged with explosives to bring it down on 9/11, It takes weeks to place such explosives in a building that size. Hello! Anybody awake?
This is utter BS and paranoid delusional conspiracy theory propaganda at its finest .
As stated ( and I’m not ****ing around ) within my circles .. DHS NSA CIA FBI .. etc
Suffice it to say Nine … Skepticism is healthy and necessary lest one fall for every con artist and snake oil salesman imaginable
Whereas Cynicism leads to Conspiracy which leads to Paranoia which leads to Insanity .
And you good sir … have become a cynic … either by volition .. or circumstance … but either way … like it or not that is what you are . As well as your being part of the problem that helped create a Donald Trump as POTUS whether you voted for him .. or not
Too much truth ? Too damn bad ! Vet or not you’ve exceeded my tolerance levels for BS
But hey … in the words of the Bard ( Bruce Hornsby )
” Its your life, its your world
Its your world, and Im just passing through
Its your life, its your world
Your life, and Im just passing through ”
And ultimately .. it is your descent down Alice’s Rabbit Hole . funeral .. or both … not mine … so it makes no difference to me after I’ve given due warning if you continue to run head first towards the Wolf who’s sole intent is your imminent destruction
You got it wrong. Conspiracy leads to cynicism, not the other way around.
why don’t you answer the articles that I posted?
Go over to VT and debate Duff I double dog dare you….
He is a hard core dem just like you so very unlike the rest of the alt media…
Again, matters not to me what you believe.
The dems are done with their gay rights and gun grabbing and protection of unrestricted abortions.
The repubs are just worse…
N
Well, Frank Shaeffer,
Your book is brilliant!
I might give this as a gift, I could as no one would be offended by it, well maybe my Trump loving brother.
Did you know I love my Brother?
What if they impeach Trump?
Me thinks Bryson is right as much as I hate to admit it as I always told the truth no mater how hard to them(my former employer) as Mr. Bryson will rejoice!
We will get Pence,
And so what do we wish for as one must have a goal of some kind in mind?
Pence will bring America into the streets as maybe it should be so…
We need foreign missionaries to preach the Gospel to these deluded Americans as this is a tremendous opportunity to preach the Gospel to the lost….
‘Tis why they want the muslem emigrents kept out.
Theater, I learned from the best.
Nine
Music, poetry, art, theater, theology, rhetoric, logic is as always plausible deniability for me as I never said that….
Artists seem to have long lives…
Nine
Just one more comment just for Frank,
https://www.vice.com/en_uk/article/434gqw/i-made-my-shed-the-top-rated-restaurant-on-tripadvisor
This is performance art using the new technology that I am afraid of….he he…
Many of my new age friends say that we create out own reality.
Twas on my window’s new computer 10 feed….
Nine
TJ Martin- I love reading your commentary, and I love watching how you play Bryson as though he ‘s the mouse, and you the cat- and he doesn’t get it! 🙂
Kabuki theater at its finest..
Thanks ;
A) For recognizing what I’m doing … and
B) For appreciating the effort .
Who is this “Jesus” Frank keeps referring to? Certainly not the Jesus from the New Testament.
Better yet Gory … who is this Jesus you continually claim to worship despite never having read a single solitary word of the Bible and denying / contradicting His every Word ?
Oh wait … I know .. its the false messiah / jesus you and your white trash kind created in your own racist image from the depths of your depraved , demented and hateful little minds … emphasis on .. little . ( small case j intentional )
FYI S*** for brains … Frank has forgotten more about the Biblical Jesus that you’ll ever be capable of learning …. and … watch your back little one .. the day of reckoning though off in the distance is coming upon you
Martin, Posts like that are why you can’t be taken seriously.
” Martin, Posts like that are why you can’t be taken seriously ”
Gory … please … stop it already … you’re cracking me and everyone else up to the point of pain and falling off our chairs we’re laughing so hard . Speaking os which .. have you seen this .. from Dolores 12/7/17 12:33 pm ? ;
” TJ Martin- I love reading your commentary, and I love watching how you play Bryson as though he ‘s the mouse, and you the cat- and he doesn’t get it! 🙂
Kabuki theater at its finest.. ”
Playing you .
Suffice it to say Gory playing you is as easy as shooting fish in a barrel .. only in your case … there is no water in the barrel … just a bunch of bleached white brain dead fish flopping around helplessly …. and me standing overhead with a 12 gauge loaded with buckshot .
Lets get serious for a moment Gory .. the only thing anyone takes seriously about you or your irrelevant , inanely stupid , malicious and erroneous comments/replies /lies and accusations etc … is … nothing
But do try again .. as boring as it has become … there is still a bit of entertainment value left in kicking your little white trash christian wanna be *** from one end of the page to the next .. and if others are enjoying it … well ……. so be it !
BWTM ; Speaking of white trash christian wannabe’s … seeing as how we’ve established you’re not part of any known or established denomination … just what brain dead white trash cult do you belong to in order to worship your small metal gods and false messiahs ?
The Holy Order of the KKK perhaps ? …. St Swastika’s ? .. David Duke’s 1st Church of Fear & Hatred ?
The KKK is so sixties! And they were always too liberal for me. My evolution has taken me way past them.
” The KKK is so sixties! And they were always too liberal for me. My evolution has taken me way past them ”
Golly .. and to think … you’re actually stupid enough to admit it ( while hiding behind a screen like the pathetic little girl little chickens**t that you are )
But …. errr … a major correction pillbilly Bryson .. you’re not ‘ evolving ‘ … you’re a throwback ( a reversion to an earlier ancestral characteristic ) to a pagan form of pre-neanderthal man in a constant state of devolution .
re : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devolution_%28biology%29
And ahhh dumb**s .. fact is nutless .. the KKK is so … 1865 to the present day .
… now go wake daddy up from his drunken stupor before he’s late to work … again … seeing as how your mommy’s unavailable cause she’s off selling her wares on the streets .. again .
Gory… You have repeatedly stated that the Jesus of your F*cking bible was not about love, kindness, joy, peace, hope, serenity, humility, benevolence, empathy, generosity, truth, compassion, forgiveness, and faith… And yet while you continue to denounce that Jesus was not about all these things, you have failed to tell us what the KJB says about him. Which begs the question: Do you even know what you are posting about, have you as much as read your bible, or are you just parroting off what your pastor says?
Margarita, That is not true. I have never stated that Jesus was not about those things you listed. Only that he was about other things as well, such as justice, morality, and holiness. Jesus does not approve of people no matter what they do, or what they believe, which seems to be what liberals think Jesus was/is. That has been the point I have tried to make about Jesus.
Dear Frank Schaeffer:
Contemptible as Trump is, the Democrat Party/Intelligence Community/Petty Bourgeoisie Media has not an ounce of democratic or progressive content to its ongoing campaign. Their dispute with Trump centers on his undermining the foreign policy interests of US imperialism.
This ferocious conflict within the ruling class expresses a disease for which no faction thereof can offer any solution. If Trump is removed, nothing will be resolved. In fact the government would be placed even more firmly under the control of the military-intelligence apparatus.
Between the working class and the ruling class, another conflict is developing. Three billionaires now control more wealth than half the US population. Mass indebtedness, low-wage jobs, a drug epidemic and other signs of social distress reveal a society in crisis.
But those opposed to the Trump administration must avoid the diseased and reactionary Democrat Party like the plague. All opposition to Trump and his administration must and will proceed solely from a working class platform that is informed by Marx’ class analysis.
A blessed Advent to you all!
You sure DO have a very valid point. As for Marx… I an perfect world, perhaps.
Problem with that is the reality of it all is that we still live in an exceedingly greedy culture, and not just in the US. As such, while it may be ideologically viable, in practice, it just wouldn’t work.
The answer to which, is we need to come up with something totally new and innovative. Time to think outside the box!
Dear Margarita Abadie:
I tend to think that Marx’ insights are needed precisely BECAUSE we live in a greedy world.
Marx crawled inside Capitalism and identified any number of contradictions integral to its workings. It’s fine to offer a peppy, ‘time to think outside the box;’ but that will entail developing solutions to Capitalism’s contradictions. That may not be so easy as is supposed.
Advent blessings!
I never said that it would be easy… Quite the contrary! The one issue I have with Marxism is that it underscores the influence of human nature.
http://damienmanier.com/essays/flaws-of-marxism/
As in… We are really NOT a nice species…
You and your kind just keep on keeping on with your self righteous pseudo intellectual Marxist BS GDD and you’ll end up handing the entire country over to the Alt Right GOP as you fall hook line and sinker for the Divide and Conquer strategy of the Far Right
And I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again … if you voted for anyone other than Hillary . or worse did not vote at all ..YOU .. steeped within your dreams and delusions are responsible for Trump’s ascendancy to the office of president
Hard core fact .. and the truth . Deal with it . Or prove yourself to be the incompetent I believe you to be
And f**k your pagan Advent blessings
Dear TJ Martin:
Yes, yes, we’re all profoundly impressed with your titanic intellect, conversational decor and Christian grace! Anyone who would disagree with you is for that reason alone undoubtedly an idiot. I’m sure you can cite papers published in respected journals based on funded research connecting political orientation and intelligence.
As you’ve come to expect, I’ll skip the hysterics.
‘if you’re too deluded stupid and immature to not be able to discern between the lesser of two evils … then you’re every bit as bad as Gary Bryson…’
Mr. Bryson is wrong on many things. That doesn’t make him bad. But lesser-evilism covenants with evil. No thank-you.
‘You and your kind just keep on keeping on with your self righteous pseudo intellectual Marxist BS GDD and you’ll end up handing the entire country over to the Alt Right GOP as you fall hook line and sinker for the Divide and Conquer strategy of the Far Right.’
Then the way forward is clear. Let the petty bourgeoisie break with the bourgeoisie and adopt the proletarian program!
The longer you delay, the more complete the bourgeoisie stranglehold on the nation will be. It’s your move, TJ!
‘And I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again … if you voted for anyone other than Hillary . or worse did not vote at all ..YOU .. steeped within your dreams and delusions are responsible for Trump’s ascendancy to the office of president’
Au contraire, the Democrat Party elected Trump by deserting the proletariat! Half of those eligible to vote refused to do so. But go ahead – denounce the working class as politically irredeemable! Maybe that’ll help. I’m sure you know best!
‘Hard core fact .. and the truth . Deal with it . Or prove yourself to be the incompetent I believe you to be’
Fact … truth … WOW! That IS hard! Can I just cede that I’m an idiot and have you discuss our ongoing systemic collapse?
‘And f**k your pagan Advent blessings’
A blessed Advent to you and yours!
Buls**t GDD .. if you’re too deluded stupid and immature to not be able to discern between the lesser of two evils … then you’re every bit as bad as Gary Bryson
Suffice it to say … take your delusional self righteous pseudo intellectual liberation theology bs and stuff it where it can’t do any more damage to the country and the world around us .. than it already has
And anytime you’d care to take this conversation to public debate ( rather than your snowflake online tactics ) .. you get what ever institute of higher learning / seminary desperate enough to allow you to study there to put up the funds ( and I don’t come cheap son ) .. and lets hash this out before your peers and the press
The art of the political rant by Gordon Duff as he writes the rant as Frank does it so very well on video….
“The world knows America is done for. Trump isn’t making America great, he is dancing on the corpse. We could give dates, 9/11; or back in 1913 when America took on an illegal Rothschild central bank. Perhaps it really is 1913; and the America of today is the result of bleeding that began then.
US Treasury Department
It is always about debt. When nations take on a central bank, and all central banks are foreign owned, all controlled by the Rothschild family, their institutions crumble, the family, religion, their government, the courts, their media, all are targeted.
We have seen this time and time again. The reason 9/11 is critical has nothing to do with the endless war sweeping the world that it began, proxy armies, phony terror groups and teeming millions of refugees.
For America it announced the largest robbery in history, $10 trillion in assets, enough to buy the entirety of Europe, simply “disappeared.” Only days before 9/11 it was learned that $2.4 trillion was missing from the US military budget alone, according to Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld.
What few know is that the group investigating, in their entirety, were killed on 9/11 during the incident at the Pentagon. We call it an incident because calling it a terror attack or even an airline crash is unsupportable without throwing away any reason whatsoever.”
https://www.veteranstoday.com/2017/11/28/neo-america-beaten-down-for-the-count/
Now that is a rant…he he…
Nine
It’s always been about: Follow the money. To wit, this is perhaps one of the best articles I’ve come across that tries to deflect on where did the money go, and perhaps inadvertently points to the obvious. That being infrastructure contracts supposedly the Donald’s specialty, and of course military equipment, where a whole bunch of “intermediary” people get to line their pockets with. How much of which is really necessary being anyone’s guess.
http://www.911myths.com/html/rumsfeld__9_11_and__2_3_trilli.html
‘Planetary stress…’ or as Paul would put it ‘the creation groans’ Add to that wars and famines – Yemen and Syria. But none of the , er, trumps tax cuts.
Frank Shaeffer,
Love your book.
I bought a copy on itunes and if you post here so should you…
Course a lot of my friends are really into Trump and the neo-nazi stuff as should I not associate with them?
I have a friend who is an expert in pre-ww2 history of Nazi Germany and Adolph Hitler I refer to him as my Hitler pal as I do love him so.
I tease him with the title of my Hitler pal as he wears it as a badge of honor.
Course, the victors of any conflict write the history of such a conflict.
What is truth as pilot once said?
You have to watch Sir Gorge Solti create a work of art.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2L85eTSWrmg
If the rehearsal process bores you as it should please go to 43:37 in the video for the concert performance.
That is a work of art…
Nine
What is the right wing
as opposed to the chicken wing
how far to the right is to far
the right is to the left
Frank’s dad said “How should we then live”
the answer to any solution
my son was a home schooled kid
I let him do what ever he wanted
went wild for awhile then now runs a successful restaurant with his wife
food superb can afford on a USG pension check
I ride my bicycle over there since driving is way to expensive
all for Trump cutting more
N
Why do liberals call conservatives “neo-Nazis”? Is it just an attempted insult? No conservative I know would identify themselves with Nazis. They aren’t much different from their parents or grandparents who fought against the Nazis in WW2. Maybe the left has gone so far left that they think anyone who has conservative beliefs is a Nazi. Anyway, it is not an truthful depiction of conservatives.
” Why do liberals call conservatives “neo-Nazis”? ”
Gee Gory .. going out of your way to once again place your inbred white trash stupidity and delusions on display ?
1) Neo when placed before an adjective or tile means ” much like ” .. ” pretending to be ” or ” acting like .. ”
2) The Middle .. genuine Conservatives and the Liberals DO NOT call all Conservatives Neo-Nazis … only the ones that deserve it
3) And in fact many Alt Right and NeoCon Conservatives including Trump , Bannon , Moore etc do identify themselves with many if not most of the ideals of the Nazi party .
” They aren’t much different from their parents or grandparents who fought against the Nazis in WW2″
Bulls**t ! Not that you’d know coming from a family of and being a chickens**t chickenhawk yourself . I had three great uncles on one side of my family alone … all decorated WWII war heroes .. one an ace Marine pilot ( Corsair F4U in the Philippines ) one a decorated Marine sniper … another decorated four times over in the Army infantry … and NONE of them so much as resemble todays Alt Right NeoCon and Neo Nazis . Fact is if any were still alive they’d be hanging their heads in shame and disgust over what the Alt Right is trying to turn this country into
In conclusion . Maybe the real problem is that the GOP has sold its soul to the Alt Right , Neo Nazis American Nazi Party and white trash White Supremacists in their blind quest for power and attempts to undermine the very Constitution they claim to uphold .
” Anyway, it is not an truthful depiction of conservatives”
Anyway … in reality when it comes to many of todays ‘ so called ‘ conservatives that are anything but .. it is an absolutely accurate and indisputable depiction
Martin, Can you cite a couple of examples of things today’s conservatives want to do that the Nazis did?
” Can you cite a couple of examples of things today’s conservatives want to do that the Nazis did?”
1) Try taking the time to actually READ my reply rather than skimming over it and reading into it what you want to see
2) Then …. try asking the correct question … rather than the question of a 10 year old ignorant little fool who’s reading skills are wanting and is incapable of comprehending even the simplest of facts
… then … maybe I might waste the time and futile effort to answer the ‘ correct ‘ question . Maybe . But the reality is ..if you have to ask … you’ve already proven yourself incapable of understanding .
But then again … in light of the following comment of yours ;
” The KKK is so sixties! And they were always too liberal for me. My evolution has taken me way past them ” Gary Bryson 12/7/17 8:38 pm
You’ve proven yourself to be one of them . A dyed in the wool card carrying ( if you were old enough ) Nazi or Neo Nazi
That’s BS martin. And the fact that you refuse to answer means you have no answer.
” That’s BS martin. And the fact that you refuse to answer means you have no answer ”
No child … that means you’ve asked an infantile over generalized and therefore irrelevant question that I refuse to waste the time answering until you can prove yourself capable of ;
1) READing my reply in its entirety .. paying attention to the specifics .. and then
2) Asking the correct question specially worded and relevant to my reply
And if yo do not … the fact is it is because you are incapable of so much as pretending to be an adult … never mind actually being one
And by the way .. its Dr Martin Mr Martin or Sir to you little one
JT,
Forget it. Your answer would likely be a lie anyway. And I’m already giving you more respect than you deserve.
” Forget it. Your answer would likely be a lie anyway. And I’m already giving you more respect than you deserve ”
Congratulations Gory . You’ve once again just proven another of my points … again …you are thoroughly lacking in reading and comprehension skills .. of even a High School student .. thanks for playing
And ahh .. FYI .. the only blatant liar ’round these here parts… little boy … is you .
Course you wouldn’t identify with the Nazi’s Gary as they were socialists.
They came to power in the 1930’s because of the failed economy and so America is on the same path with a failed economy and the widening gap between the haves and have nots and so Trump is only a warm up, as when this really gets going instead of blaming the jew we will blame those white male evangelical American Christians and it is coming Gary….
Frank has really got the blame game going he he…
Nine
” “I think it was great at the time when families were united. Even though we had slavery, they cared for one another…Our families were strong, our country had a direction.”
—Roy Moore, asked at a campaign rally when America had last been great
Red Neck White Trash delusional psychopathy complete devoid of reality at its finest
Meanwhile Gory… Just in case you haven’t been watching the news… Yet another homophobic ‘traditional values good Christian’ pro-Drumph Republican who attended Heartland Baptist Bible College in Oklahoma City, was caught red-handed with an underage boy in a sleazy motel. All of which was recorded on tape…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipHGBqFwpmk
Put him in jail, or execute him. He should not be on the streets.
Oh … but its OK for Roy Moore to of committed just as vile act of sexual predation
( illicit sex of all kinds are of equal value in Christ’s eyes .. right down … ” to lusting in ones heart ” )
Yeah .. you’ve read the bible alright .. question is … which bible … cause it sure as hell isn’t the Bible that contains the Word of God
Martin, You don’t know if Moore is guilty, or not, of the things he has been accused of.
Bull**t .. everybody knows .
Wrong. Some people know, but you are not one of them.
” Wrong. Some people know, but you are not one of them ”
So twenty two women and their families are all lying . So the majority of the populations of every town he lived or served in … are lying
Hmmm ..interesting
But ahh it seems to me … and everybody else for that matter .. when it comes to being wrong … you’ve got the corner on that market .. fact is .. you’ve got an absolute monopoly on being … wrong … about everything
Now pardon me while I go laugh my **s off ..at your expense
As I understand things… One of the ten commandments clearly says: Thou shall not kill. So why, being that you are a so-called “good Christian” … are you now advocating for the death sentence. Are you saying that executions were/are part of what Jesus advocated for?
Margarita, You don’t understand things. God instituted the death penalty for certain acts., and having sex with someone of the same sex is one of those acts.
Problem with that… is that it doesn’t address what exactly is in the bible that seems to make for so many so-called “Good Christians” engage in underage sex.
Moral sex in the Bible is limited to a husband and his wife. There is no moral sex outside of heterosexual marriage.
Correction stupid … there is no moral sex outside the bounds of marriage .. period …
Making your beloved bromance Roy Moore every bit as guilty as the one in the link Ms Abadie provided . Come to think of it .. that makes Trump just as guilty as well … philandering slutaholic that he is
Correction? You said the same thing I did and think you are correcting me? LOL!
Roy Moore has been accused, not proven to be guilty. An accusation is not proof of guilt.
” You said the same thing I did and think you are correcting me? LOL! ”
I said the same thing you did ? Oh really ? Are your reading comprehension skills really that bad ?
And enough already with the LOL little girl act . We all know you’ve got gender and sexual identity issues .. so no need to put them on display along with your abject stupidity
” Roy Moore has been accused, not proven to be guilty. An accusation is not proof of guilt ”
There is more proof that Roy Moore is guilty than there is in Al Franken’s case . Yet … amazingly .. the so called immoral Left called for his resignation with him agreeing . And all Franken did was grope an adult woman or two ( bad enough granted but not nearly as bad as raping underage children )
Yet you and the so called moral majority GOP stands behind an accused pedophile … and that accused pedophile claiming to be a christian calling all those victims liars and refusing to stand down
And have you heard what Sara Huckabee said in regards to Roy Moore two weeks ago ?
” Better a rapist Republican than a moral Democrat ”
Gee … noticing a trend here ? So much for the ‘ moral ‘ majority .. thats anything but … moral or a majority that is .
Blatant hypocrites pretending to be christian or moral is more like it
If Franken is innocent, why did he resign? Moore has denied the accusations against him. His accusers have no credibility, and one of the biggest reasons is the timing of their accusations. If they objected to anything Roy Moore did, they should have spoken up YEARS AGO! Instead, they wait until just before he is elected to the US Senate. Their timing proves they are lying.
Martin, Did you intend your statement on moral sex to include same-sex marriage?
If only the accusers had made their accusations within five or even ten years of when they claim Moore molested them. But they wait until Moore is about to be elected to the US Senate to accuse him. It would be logical that if Roy Moore weren’t running for office, those accusers would have kept silent.
” If Franken is innocent …… ”
WTF ! Where did I say or claim Franken was innocent ?
Good lord child … all that inbreeding and family history of substance abuse really has limited /diminished your reading and comprehension skills and abilities beyond repair …
I did not say that you said Franken is innocent. I’m just asking why he resigned if he isn’t guilty? People who are innocent usually deny their guilt.
Wrong Gory… People who are guilty usually lie about being innocent. As is the case with your god Drumph, who after apologizing for bragging about sexually assaulting on the 2005 ‘Access Hollywood’ tape, now claims that it wasn’t his voice.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/trump-previously-2005-access-hollywood-tape-now-questioning/story?id=51406745
” I did not say that you said Franken is innocent. I’m just asking why he resigned if he isn’t guilty? People who are innocent usually deny their guilt ”
Sigh … you truly are a hopeless delusional little child incapable of adult comprehension , reading and conversation .
” Martin, Did you intend your statement on moral sex to include same-sex marriage?”
Read the above reply
A disgisting quote from Trump’s Whitehouse worth repeating ;
” ” Better a rapist Republican than a moral Democrat ” – Sarah Huckabee Sanders
Moral majority ?
What moral majority ?
PS; Isn’t it ironic that Martin Luther said the exact opposite when he proclaimed ;
” Better a just Turk as the prince than an unjust Christian ”
So much for there being so much as a semblance of Christianity or wisdom within the ranks of the very rank smelling GOP
Why didn’t the accusers of Roy Moore speak out years ago? Evidently, because Roy Moore wasn’t about to be elected to the US Senate years ago! Everyone knows these accusations are a political trick designed to try to keep Moore out of the Senate. It might not work though. I hope it doesn’t.
EXCELLENT POST AND WELL SAID Frank Schaffer. I described this many months ago as the world-wide war of the united oligarchs against the people. Those oligarchs who made their money on the backs of the people. Those who now think that they will be allowed to play their end-game of our total submission to their fillthy minds and hearts. But that will stop right here with Trump. The unacceptable alternative will be many years of slavery to these bastards. The oligarch misfits have chosen the most indecent leader for their end-game that they could ever find. Trump.. someone who does not even try to be decent thus lowering the standards for humanity. And yes.. some will like that, especially the misguided “deplorables” who forgot that their deplorability was in the first place created by those same oligarchs who now exploit their cracked emotions and their stupid brains. The “deplorables”, now traitors to humanity just by being incapable of loving and sound thinking. This oligarch end-game MUST fail!