I grew up in the big time Evangelical subculture, where a man like Roy Moore’s penchant for child sex/assault and alleged rape was all too typical. There was always some nasty little sex secret with a pastor going on. In public—like Moore—it was all about godly lives. In private it was all about double standards.
From rape to who got abortions, to how evangelical churches protected their pedophile molesters, one story emerged: Protect the “Work” at all costs! The children who a pastor rapes are told to keep silent lest they “Hurt the Lord’s Work.” And the children are blamed: “Your skirt was too short! You led him astray!”
Roy Moore isn’t the abusive anomaly, he’s the patriarchal norm. This goes back to the Bible itself that puts brutal men in charge of churches where women must be silent. Voices raised in protest are exiled. Moore is a poster boy for evangelicals like Ralph Reed, who should be in jail for double dealings with the casino owners. He’s a poster boy for the professional hater Franklin Graham. Moore, with his gun-waving, Bible-quoting is no different in hypocrisy than is Sarah Huckabee, as she quotes Jesus with one side of her mouth and lies for Trump daily out of the other.
AWAY with these scum! Take back the House in 2018.
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I expected Schaeffer to say Roy Moore is guilty of whatever someone claimed he did, without waiting for the evidence. The accusation is proof enough for Schaeffer.
Biblical Christians are probably the best exposers of sinful misconduct within churches. I personally know of several instances of Christian churches exposing and dealing with sinful behavior, rather than covering it up.
Interesting that a month before the election, the woman chooses to make the allegations. Why not when she says it happened? Why not ten years ago? The timing is very suspicious, to say the least. The allegations would have been a lot more credible if brought years ago.
Give it a rest little man . By his every thought action and deed over the years it comes as no surprise to anyone that Looney Tunes Moore would among his many crimes against humanity have raped a child or two along the way as well . Suffice it to say if you’d look at the mans overall record he is and has been since he came into the public eye a scumbag in the first degree . But I’m sure you just loves the little scum .. don’t ya .. fact is he’s probably yer new hero second only to the Toddler in Chief
As far as the timing being interesting ? Yeah right Bryson .. after Comey’s last minute revelation that wasn’t in 2016 … this is anything but interesting
And credibility ? Well Bryson .. thats something neither you nor Roy ( I wanna play cowboy ) Moore will ever be accused of having .
I like Moore. Hope he wins the election. It would be interesting seeing him in the Senate.
And you are guilty of judging him.
Guilty of judging him? Are you serious? There is no guilt involved in judging vile, hate-filled, racist, sexual predators like Moore and Trump! You are the guilty one—guilty of condoning evil and guilty of the utmost hypocrisy!
You would being the half wit bigoted racist fear addled little child that you are . In as far as judging him ? 1) Nowhere am I judging his salvation 2) I’m only stating the facts available to one and all in the public record . But of course .. what do the facts matter to a mindless individual such as yourself .
And yeah Bryson … yer some kinda christian alright … riddled with hate .. addled by fear .. running to every small metal god holding out his or her hand in hopes that maybe this will be the one to finally bring peace to the tragic hell of your own creation as you wallow in your minuscule chickenhawk existence .
Are you a homosexual Martin?
I wonder…. Were you as cynical when they dumped false news on Hilary two weeks before the presidential election?
I expected Bryson to once again post more of his irrelevant fertilizing effluence and verbal flatulence without thinking or considering his words before hand especially when it comes to a subject like the homophobic racist half wit Roy ( I wanna play cowboy mommy ) Moore . And as expected … he did
In as far as the biblical christians Bryson is familiar with exposing sin ? ( small case b & c intentional ) Yeah right . Suffice it to say little one they’re the ones committing 99% of the crimes and sin .. not exposing them . Though to be fair many are rather prolific at exposing themselves … as are you no doubt .
Call Betty Bowers.
We don’t have to . We’ve got you .
Did you ever molest a child, Martin?
Oh .. and a few statistics when it comes to the so called biblical American christians ( small case b & c intentional ) in regards to their morals and ethics ;
Highest percentage of divorce per capita in the US – #1 Evangelical & Fundamentalist Christians
Highest percentage of pedophiles – #1 Catholics .. #2 Fundamentalist Christians .. #3 Evangelicals
Highest percentage of spousal abuse – #1 Fundamentalists … #2 Evangelicals
Highest percentage of child abuse – #1 Fundamentalists #2 Catholics #3 Evangelicals
Highest percentage committing Rape – #1 A tie between Fundamentalists and Evangelicals
Highest percentage committing violent crimes – No contest .. Fundamentalist hands down
Highest percentage committing adultery – #1 Evangelicals .. #2 Fundamentalist .. #3 Catholics
Highest percentage committing incest – #1 with a bullet ( music business idiom ) Fundamentalist .. with Evangelicals bringing up the rear … literally
etc – et al – ad nauseam … with 99% of the time the churches involved going out of their way to hide the issues rather than reveal or deal with them in order to avoid public embarrassment to the point of forcing abused wives and children to remain in the home etc
And just to put a point on the abject morality of todays churches in America . 80% of Evangelicals and Fundamentalist polled state that moral character and ethics no longer matter when it comes to leadership be it home – church or political
So next time you’re looking for someone to blame for the decline of morality and the eminent destruction of Christianity in America … look no further than the so called Christian churches themselves
“The big book of bad baptist preachers”
https://www.amazon.com/Big-Book-Bad-Baptist-Preachers/dp/1518883664/
Evangelicals will vote for him no matter like our dear Mr Bryson above!
Hearing the report right now as I write.
Nine
If I lived in Alabama, I would vote for Roy Moore, unless I was convinced he really did have sex with a minor. If she had a case, she should have brought it years ago.
That Bryson is because you are a bigoted little racist hypocrite pretending to be a christian . No doubt you’d of been in love with George Wallace as well . Fact is you’re probably just dying to have a Bromance with ole Roy and George’s corpse with a confederate flag flying over the bed .. aint ya . What was that line from the movie ” Deliverance ” that describes you to a tee ? Oh yeah …
” He aint right “
Boy, you are sick. Perverted. Demented. And damned.
Once again placing your lack of maturity wit and intelligence on display for all to see ?
… and ahhh .. once again Bryson .. bringing up the Bible you despise so thoroughly while claiming to love it .
It is not your right to judge another man or woman’s salvation . That right belongs to God the Father and the Son alone .
And if you’d read that Bible of yours rather than using it as a doorstop … you’d know that without me telling you …
But wait .. I get it Bryson … the reason for yet another of your pre-adolescent replies and irrelevant judgments is because once again I’ve hit a nerve revealing who and what you really are . Striking at the very core of your inner most desires you’ve been hiding in that skeleton filled closet of yours
Holy ___ Nineman ! Yikes !
Pastor Fred of Landover Baptist on Christian charity.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jXsgpNVgsvk
Nine
Take about twenty years off Pastor Deacon Fred and you’d have Bryson in the … errr … flesh .. eeesh
Nine… That was EPIC!!!! I literally almost choked laughing!!! And on that note, here is another video on the doctrine of Evangelical Prosperity Gospel, all of them hypocrites to the core!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXY7-XyfBvs
That … is hysterical ! With the additional irony of it being based on a Dolly Parton hit !
Thank you for this piece, Frank, for it reminds us of just what kind of person Moore is…
I do think that the real tragedy for the USA, and a totally damning one to be sure, is that a person of such ill repute and such low character is able to run and garner enough potential votes to possibly win a seat in the US senate!
America has lost its way..
Dolores,
Why do you assume Moore is guilty? Because you hate him for what he stands for.
Because unlike yourself Dolores is not blind to the obvious in light of Moore’s long standing public record .
Is there a history of sexual misconduct in Moore’s record? If there is, that would be the only legitimate basis for taking the accusations against him seriously. The timing of the allegations prove they are politically motivated. They are not an attempt to right a wrong from years ago. Its just an attempt to keep Moore from being elected.
And golly gee Bryson will ya look at that ! Not only are Frank , Dolores et al and myself making the assumption that Roy ( I wanna play cowboy momma ) Moore is guilty based on his long standing public record … so is the super pac thats been funding his campaign as they pull the rug out from under him today … and the majority of the GOP as well .
Oh well Bryson .. another of your small metal god racist bromances bites the dust .
Bryson .. a little history lesson
Long ago before your parents were so much as a glimmer in your grandparents eye there was this historical larger than life figure .. much like Trump , Moore etc .. who for decades railed against immorality , decadence and the decline of the US placing much if not all of the blame on the counterculture and them godless communists… all while wearing women’s dresses , cheating on his wife , soliciting prostitutes and having dalliances with little boys
His name ? J. Edgar Hoover
Lesson to be learned ? …” Methinks thou doest protest too much ” … are words and wisdom to live by .
What does he stand for? Hypocrisy, dishonest, delusion? I can think of those three. Pedophilia, misogyny, perversion? Those are three more.
Nine… That was EPIC!!!! I literally almost choked laughing!!! And on that note, here is another video on the doctrine of Evangelical Prosperity Gospel, all of them hypocrites to the core!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXY7-XyfBvs
Did you ever have sex with an underage girl Frank?
What if someone claims you did back in Swiss land?
When did you stop molesting minors, Courtney? While running for public office or before?
All gays should have a concealed firearm!
Our founders were wise!
Protection from the likes of the Moore’s of this world….
Nine
I noticed how much pain this issue was causing you personally in some interviews that were aired over the weekend. I was deeply touched by your choice to be honest and compassionate and even angry at the way some people use religious fundamentalism as a cover for truly criminal conduct. I heard you.
1. These girls were only teenagers when it happened. Today you see grown up women, and that makes it hard to understand why they only come forward now. So, all of us can remember how it was to be a kid back in 60’s and 70’s. Children should be seen, and not heard. The guilty ones were normally the ones in leading positions in the church, and parents totally trust them, and respects them. Listen to what the latest witnesses said, her mother even felt flattered that Roy Moore was so flirtatious. So what chance did she stand then to be taken seriously, when her own mother seems to have a lot of respect for the man who abused her. How much power did we have back then? So, don’t expect of these women, that you yourself could not even do. (I was born into Jehovah’s Witnesses, so I also know a lot about how they try to cover up their child molester crimes in their midst)
2. Roy Moore has judged himself, when he admitted on Sean Hannity’s show that he indeed dated young girls back then, but not without the knowledge of their mothers. Just the fact that he could not give a decisive answer proofs his guilt. We all should know the signs that normally exposes a liar. See, the truth is always easy to tell, you don’t need many words, and you are consistent, because there is only one truth. Lying is the most difficult thing to do, and that is what you hear when you listen to Roy Moores answers. It does not come naturally. So, if someone should be falsely accused, he will be able to win the trust of the general public if his answers are truthful.
3. Persecution got nothing to do with what is going on. Read ‘The History of the Church’, by Eusibius, who lived in 380 AD, he writes about how the first Christians have been persecuted, and this got nothing to do with persecution. People are misusing this spiritual warfare term. Please also read ‘Ruins, Or, A Survey of the Revolutions of Empires. There are some very valid questions to ask to any form of religion. We are so far from the truth, all of us, so we should stop pretending that we in fact have found the truth. We should all be looking for the truth, instead of just taking the first idea presented to us. We should all be critical, and all be open-minded. We should all read, and study. Then we will see, that we all have no clue what we are here on earth for, and we have to work together to figure that out.