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Frank, Either Trump or Hillary Clinton was going to be potus. I wish we had had a better choice, but we didn’t. Having to choose between those two, the choice of Trump was easy for me, and for lots of other Christians. We knew how corrupt Hillary is. We knew what a crook she is. We knew how immoral she is. We knew what she said she wanted to do as potus. And we didn’t like it. Based on what Trump said he wanted to do, choosing him was easy. Given the same options, I would vote for Trump over Clinton again. And so would everyone who is moral.
” …. the choice of Trump was easy for me, and for lots of other Christians ”
Fascinating how easy it was for you and other so called Christians to elect a blatantly narcissistic racist psychopath not to mention pathological liar who made his …. errr … fortune * by ripping off others , not paying his bills as well as cheating and lying his way thru life . So tell me Bryson .. just where in Trump’s entire M/O does the word moral or morality come up ?
Seriously Bryson .. you are the very epitome of heretical theology and hypocritical thinking posing as a Christian deluding yourself into thinking anything about you so much as resembles a Christian .
Might I suggest perhaps taking the time to read the Bible collecting dust on a shelf rather than regurgitating verbatim proof texted platitudes and attitudes in the futile attempt to prove you’re a Christian ?
Nahhh … like looking into Trump’s public record since the 70’s before casting your misguided vote … that’d be more effort than the likes of you are capable of .
In conclusion … what would Jesus say about the likes of you ? White washed tombs sums it up nicely albeit in the original language the actual phrase translates as dung heaps covered in white paint .
* FYI There’s a reason why Trump won’t disclose his tax records . Because he’s not worth one tenth of what he makes claim to …. just another lie in the long list of lies following Trump since his emergence into the public eye in the 70s
Would Jesus vote for Hillary Clinton?
TJ Bryson not JT . Can’t you even get that right ?
As for who would Jesus vote for ? Like I’ve said many times Bryson … you’ve never actually taken the time to read your Bible have you … never mind comprehend or taken to heart what it says . But for your edification because I’m feeling a bit generous tonight . Christ had nothing what so ever to do with civil authorities then nor would He have if He were walking the earth today .e.g He would not of voted . Period . Nor for your further edification in light of the ludicrous WWJD campaign would he of driven anything either . Ahhh if only you and our kind would actually take the time to read the Book you claim to hold so dearly before spouting off with your inane uninformed vapidity verging on outright heresy
Regardless though placing the word moral or morality in the same sentence as Trump is the epitome of an oxymoron . Begging the question . I wonder if it was as easy for the Roman Catholic Church to support Franco and Mussolini – the Lutheran Church to support Hitler ( along with the World Council of Churches endorsing Hitler ) not to mention the Russian Orthodox Church to endorse Putin as it was for the American Evangelical Church in its ever descending spiral of hypocrisy and lies more concerned with its own preservation than holding to or perpetuating the Truth to go all in for Trump ? Somehow … sadly … I’ll bet it was
As for ;
” Based on what Trump said he wanted to do, choosing him was easy ”
Congratulations and thank you very much . In one solitary sentence you’ve proved my every accusation that you are in fact a ” Cult of Personality ” celebrity addled sycophant falling for every and any con imaginable as long as its attached to someone famous who you perceive as successful . Not to mention having falling head first into the abyss of Tin Foil hat conspiracy theory when it came to Clinton . Suffice it to say … she aint no angel .. far from it … but in comparison to Trump ? She’s a saint .,, with a small case ‘ s’ Or to borrow the words of former NYC Mayor Bloomberg during the campaign ;
” Hilary may not be your first choice and in fact Hilary may not be your preferred choice at all but in this election she is the only logical choice any intelligent individual can make ”
What Trump said indeed ! Pardon me while I fall off my chair laughing . You truly are a pitifully gullible little fool !
By the way Bryson …. these words …
” Based on what Trump said he wanted to do, choosing him was easy ”
.. will come back to haunt you with each and every comment you make from this point on . And thats a promise you can take to the bank … unlike anything Trump may promise . By the way … so far exactly what have you and your kind gotten from Trump other than Philip Anschutz’s bought and paid for little lap dog Goresuch who’ll turn and bite the minute anything coming before the courts might adversely affect his lord and master to whom he is beholding and indebted to ?
Sigh … sorry but I’m feeling the need to dig into yet another heaping plate of schadenfreude as I watch the blithering blatherskite you voted for do his best to ruin the very lives of those who supported and voted for him . Which is … if you’d of bothered to look over Trump’s extensive public record … has been Trump’s M/O since the 70’s e.g . Betrayal . Relegating Trump to Dante’s 9th Circle of Hell when its all said and done
Trump may be a disappointment as potus. But given the alternative (Hillary) it was worth taking the chance.
You may be right that Jesus would not have voted. But if you think that Jesus would prefer Hillary over Trump, you are dead wrong.
Bryson . Hmmm … ” taking a chance ” ? Suffice it to say had you done due diligence taking responsibility for your right to vote rather than blindly picking and choosing based on conspiracy theory innuendo and sycophant lies you’d of known there was no chance involved . What Trump was and always has been is exactly what you got . A pathological lying destructive con artist . Fact is you fell for the con hook , line and sinker with the hook set so deeply even the jaws of life are too weak to remove it
Also .. if you’d of bothered to take the time to read the Bible you’d know there is no ” may be … ‘ involved . I am right . Period !
And if you think for a moment in light of who and what Trump is Christ would either of chosen Trump or justified your voting for him …. than you are a worse hypocrite , fool and a heretical liar than you’ve already proven yourself to be .
“Fact is you fell for the con hook, line and sinker with the hook set so deeply even the jaws of life are too weak to remove it”
Trump voters not only fell for Trump’s con game, but they continue to support it. Bryson suffers from a willful self-imposed moral blindness much like Don Jr. talking about Harvey Weinstein and overlooking allegations from his own mother that his father committed marital rape. Would Jesus have voted for Hillary? Who knows, but Bryson assertion that Jesus would not have preferred Hillary or Trump is simply his way of justifying his own hypocrisy in supporting someone who is so unChristlike. Now I see is real-time how someone like Hilter got as far as he did despite a nation full of Christians.
Christians who voted for Trump would be ashamed of themselves if they didn’t like what he was doing.
FYI Bryson … the Robert Plant video I posted ? Three of the members of Plant’s band are bonafide Biblical Christians .. preferring to perform with an admitted non-believer than to so much as stand along side a blatant hypocrite in the guise of being a Christian musician .
BWTM . A disappointment ? An understatement if there ever was one . More like an abject fool trying to act presidential while piece by piece tearing down any remaining positive aspects of this country and in the priced making us out to look like fools in the world’s eyes . Suffice it to say when an off balance N.Korean dictator has a better vocabulary and more mature rhetoric than the man pretending to be the POTUS … we as a nation are in very deep ____ indeed
How in the Wide World of Sports can you, a so-called Christian, stand behind someone who micturates on the New Testament on a daily basis?
“Given the same options, I would vote for Trump over Clinton again. And so would everyone who is moral.”
Of course, you would vote for Trump again because you are not moral. We all knew then and know now how corrupt Trump is. We all knew then and know now what a crook Trump is. We all knew then and know now how immoral “grab them by the pussy” Trump is.
We all knew and know now how Trump wanted to marginalized religious and racial minorities as POTUS. And you embraced his racism and overlooked his well-documented misogyny because you liked it.
Based on what Trump is now doing like threatening to take health care away from millions of people, or leaving the island of Puerto Rico to fend for itself, or threatening to destroy millions of innocent people in Korea while trying to give massive tax cuts to his billionaire friends, choosing him must have been easy for you.
Given the same options, no one who has been reading your comments on this blog is surprised you would vote for this depot again. But stop kidding yourself, homeboy. You and other Trump enablers are not moral in any sense of the word.
joelyn, Voting for Hillary was not an option for me. The only other option was to not vote, and not voting might help Hillary to win, and I didn’t want that. I dispute your claim that I am immoral. I understand that you are liberal, and destroys your perspective.
“Voting for Hillary was not an option for me. The only other option was to not vote, and not voting might help Hillary to win,”
You can dispute my observation of your character all you like. According to your own comments, you are a deeply self-righteous person who has an obvious a double standard.
You couldn’t vote for Hillary because of her “moral” shortcomings, but you could vote for someone who is much worse in every way. You are like Pharisees in the mythological story about the woman caught in adultery. You are a stone cold hypocrite who was crowing when Trump won and now you claim he is a disappointment as if you didn’t know beforehand about this man’s lack of character. Hey, I have a bridge for sale in Brooklyn. LOL!
It wasn’t Hillary’s personal moral defects alone that meant I could not vote for her. The most important reason was what she would do as President. I knew Trump had problems, but what he said he wanted to do as President was much more appealing to me than what Hillary wanted to do.
I consider myself normal. Mrs. Clinton is no more a crook than Trump, in fact she probably is a lot more honorable and honest. Yes, she made mistakes but so did Trump but nobody called him on them until it was too late. Yet, early in the process I argued against Mrs. Clinton because of all the “baggage” she carried, most of which was believed by people like you. When Trump calls her “crooked” Hilary he is definitely the pot calling the kettle black. Trump made promises he didn’t even plan on keeping and pandered to the least intelligent of Americans. Given the same options again I’d still vote for Mrs. Clinton but I hope the Democrats can come up with a more competitive option next time.
Gary Bryson: First of all, you didn’t “know” anything! You say you wish we had a better choice between Trump and Hillary. We had a better choice, but somehow you decided that Hillary is corrupt, a crook, immoral person, etc. but you gave no examples. You apparently don’t know anything about her lifetime ofservice to this country from the time she graduated law school. She has devoted her life to the most vulnerable in society, children, women, immigrants, the poor, the people on the margins of society – a Christian in every sense of the word. So, if it makes you feel better to pretend that you had to vote for Trump, because Hillary was so bad, I hope you are watching what you and people like you have created – an ungodly, filthy sexist pig as president, someone very much like Harvey Weinstein, only worse, whom you may vilify now, but who is no better than Trump as far as character is concerned. Now Hillary has good character, is a godly person, with a record of public service that puts both these men to shame. You are totally irresponsible in voting for a commodity sold to you by the malicious media, with their lies about Hillary, and their lies about Trump. You have made your bed. Lie in it with the rest of the unredeemed, and see if you can get on a list for a brain and heart transplant.
Hilary Clinton has devoted her life to HERSELF! You have no clue what a Christian is.
The only answer worth considering !
For which there is only one available solution . The one no one in this age of pretentious absolutism wants to own up to . That being choosing the lesser of two evils in light of the overall long term potential consequences of either choice . Or to put it in philosophical terms … a Tragic Dilemma where either answer is bad but one is worse than the other . In this last election’s case Hilary being the lesser of two evils .. by a long shot .
Stop saying that she was the lesser of two evils. Really? Can anyone in good conscience maintain this ridiculous position?
But perhaps the more pertinent and relevant question in light of the past 10 months may be ;
Written by Richard Thompson performed by Robert Plant
Thank God (the God of the Bible) Hillary Clinton isn’t President. And thank God Obama is out of office.
“Thank God (the God of the Bible) Hillary Clinton isn’t President. And thank God Obama is out of office.”
“When fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross.”
What has Trump done that is fascist?
What has Mr. Trump done that is *not* fascist?
Define what you mean by fascist. We need to be using the same definition.
Good thing God’s on our side . . . or we’d damned sure be screwed, huh!
310, I never said God is on the side of America.
“It wasn’t Hillary’s personal moral defects alone that meant I could not vote for her. The most
important reason was what she would do as President. I knew Trump had problems, but what he said he wanted to do as President was much more appealing to me than what Hillary wanted to do.”
What? You knew “grab them by the pussy” Trump had problems, but his banning Muslims was more appealing to you than equal opportunities for immigrants or refuges to enter the United States? No Matt: 25:31-44 for you.
“Then they will reply, ‘Lord, when did we ever see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and not help you?’ “
LOL! Well, what a pity the Donald has no legislative victories to report. Last I heard, Trump was begging the Mexican president not to say he won’t pay for the wall. That must be a big disappointment to you and the fools who supported Trump who is now using public domain to seize their property to build the wall that will never be built!
Obamacare repeal. Now why would a good Christian like you want millions of American to lose their healthcare. So Christ like I must say. Why would Jesus not want folks to have healthcare or women to have birth control? Thought Jesus was pro-life? Well abortions will go up as women lose affordable access to birth control.
Of course, Trump had to resort to an executive order to dismantle Obamacare because he didn’t have a replacement plan a few decent Republicans could support. Now millions of American may lose their health coverage which will cost the government billions of dollars according to the CBO.
But that’s okay. Da Lawd probably wants it that way and he probably wants the one percent to get their tax cut even though it will add to the deficit. . Screw the working and middle class.
And screw anyone who is not a Christian white and in America because white Christians are the ones who are being oppressed in these United States of America.
Those decent Nazi down there in Virginia marching with torches and chanting the “the Jews will not take over” must be free to enjoy their Nazism. So what if America is as racially divided as ever, it’s all in the good Lawd’s plan because The Donald is his man according to Pat Robertson and Jim Bakker. “They will know we are Christians by our love,” hell no. The Donald must guarantee the Supreme Court so those good Christians bakeries don’t have to bake cake for the gays. It’s da Lawd’s will. Yeah, I can see Trump appeal to you all right.
You want the US Government to be run according to what the Bible says? Are you sure? . Frank is always harping about a “theocracy”, and how we have to stop that, and here you are advocating for a theocracy! I thought you and Frank were allies!
Are you aware that if we run the US by the Bible, many of the things you value will be stopped? Homosexuals will be executed. It will be illegal to remarry after divorce. The teaching of evolution will be illegal. Etc., etc. Do you really want that? I don’t think you do. If you don’t want a theocracy, you should stop trying to make arguments from the Bible.
Mr Bryson, joelyn simply points out that Mr Trump violates many New Testament principles. You seem to be happier with the Old Testament standard of executions for adultery, homosexuality etc. Just curious, are you without sin?
Every Democrat in America violates many New Testament principles. Yet, you prefer one of them be President instead of Trump. I don’t. Liberals are bad for America.
“What has Trump done that is fascist?”
Thank you for asking since you obviously didn’t noticed the Donald’s fascism before casting your vote for this manic.
First, his repeated attacks on the First Amendment and the free press. Scrutiny is the last thing someone as corrupt as Trump wants. No wonder he is afraid of the Russian probe by Robert Muller.
Second, his deliberate fake news about the peaceful NFL protest against police brutality and his attempts to badger NLF owners into censoring their players by falsely claiming the players are disrespecting the flag, etc. Even gasbag Rush Limbaugh admits Trumps is making him nervous because he is acting like a dictator in this situation.
Third, Trump’s attempt to ban Muslim people from entering the US solely based on their religion, etc. Donald Trump is probably not even a Christian yet he wraps himself in the mantle of Evangelical Christianity which has given this bigot a voice and supports his anti-American agenda like building a wall and expecting Mexico to pay for it (good luck with that).
Four, The Donald admires other depots like Russian President Vladimir Putin (whom he will never criticize) and brutal Philippine leader, Rodrigo Duterte, whom he has invited to the White House.
The list is endless and not one day has gone by when Donald Trump has not embarrassed the US in front of the world’s stage.
At the value voters summits (LOL!), Mr. Family Values himself pledged to fight the war on Christmas, much like his war on women and birth control and healthcare for Americans who can’t afford it.
Hopefully, there may be enough folks aware of the threat the Donald poses to our Republic before he gets us into a war with North Korea or causes Iran to resume their nuclear weapon programs. Only time will tell.
“When fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross.”
Misogyny in religion, politics & now Hollywood?
I’m shocked! 😯
Kinda begs the question, “Is there life on Mars?”
Frank Schaeffer for president!!
Can I get an Amen?